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Mixed marriage in Russia: Anna and Paul face racism and compromise

Paul is 38 years old, it is Cameroon. Anna is 28, she is Russian. Married for 5 years, they show their family life imbued with strong cultural differences and a more hostile towards people of color environment.
Paul is a doctor by training but works in a Swiss watch company as a quality controller. He arrived in Russia in 1993 to his medical studies in Moscow and Ivanovo, 300 km from the capital. Anna Muscovite economist. She does not work and cares for their child, little Sophie, born neither black nor white but "latte" as Paul says.
Paul and Anna took time to get used to the culture of the other. It took, as far as possible, to change, to adapt, to find compromises eventually ... like all couples.
Yet Paul says "ignore many things" including how a Russian woman can talk to her husband:
"She can afford to criticize me in public like it was quite normal then that would be a tragedy in Cameroon. Here women are less subject and audacity. African women never confront their husbands, especially about intimate subjects. A frustrated man is a man divorcing in Africa while here, the woman may frustrate her husband sexually without problems. "
For her part, Anna has had to adapt. "An African man has a different conception of life that the Russians: it does not fit every evening at home or does not come out the weekend with his wife and child. He needs to get out, to move, to be with his friends to discuss. " And Paul seems kind of loyal to the African proverb says "you can not find anything by staying at home."
Anna had to accept that Paul also takes care of his family financially in Cameroon. "But as long as there is love and the desire to be together, everything is settled between us," says Anna. Also the amounts invested in Africa are also invested in Russia. "UaDreams built a dacha because my wife and my mother wished, while it was not important for me to have property in Russia because I do not intend to live there forever," said Paul. Additional info uadreams2.wordpress.com/.
Anna knows that sooner or later the family went to live in Africa, and whether it has accepted the idea, it sets conditions. One of them is the guarantee of financial stability there. Another is to go once or twice a year in Russia with her children.
Given their cultural differences, Paul says: "I never agreed I tolerated. The desire to be together and love must be very strong to get over these constraints "To which Anna replies." From the start, one must know that marries another tradition and should the accept. "
The couple must also bear in Russia, a country where racist demonstrations are important.
Anna regularly paid the price when it comes out with his little girl. The eyes of people say a lot and suspect of having "a dubious relationship with the consequence (my) little mixed race girl."
"When I go to the clinic, the doctor asks me as affirmation:" Obviously there is no father? "On hearing that I can be a girl mother."
No one can imagine that she is married to a man of color, the height, in love.
A major problem when Anna had to tell her family she was living with an African. It was a "normal" jokes Paul, "the mother was in shock and father wanted to commit suicide."
At the first meeting, Anna's mother was alone. "She had tact and asked me lots of questions about my future plans, my intellectual level ... UaDreams drank a glass of vodka and all the contact happened even if it was not for our union" .
The father, he long resisted. "Then when UaDreams returned from a trip to Africa, he wanted to meet us. He was embarrassed and could not face me. He was very nervous, never smiled, and then, after several meetings, UaDreams became the best of friends. "
Paul and Anna know that their history is not like all those of mixed couples in Russia.
Before meeting his wife, Paul lived a tragic story with a Russian girl met in Ivanovo, "where they have never seen a black of their lives." After five years of intense love life, his girlfriend got pregnant. So they wanted to keep the child and marry the mother of the girl objected. She called Paul "creature", "as (if) 'was an animal," eventually convinced her daughter to have an abortion.
Paul recounts this painful experience to stress the fact that if an African-Russian couple must overcome many difficulties in Russia, it is the relationship with the Russian-laws which remains the essential component of its success.

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What a catastrophe ... UaDreams can see how the biological and cultural miscegenation is a catastrophe for the two families, Russian and Cameroon.
I do not understand how one can openly support in the press intermarriage, miscegenation, which is an unnatural process. This propaganda is the contrapositive of racism of the nineteenth century: today, apologizing for the evil of the past, it incenses the "café au lait".
End on the words of Claude Lévi-Strauss (*) which found that cultures and races of the world are like a big rainbow sky whose colors do not mix. I close with the words of Paul Morand (**) pessimistic to us: "This is a great tragedy that the decline of the white race, its disappearance ..." (1976). To meditate.
(*) Claude Lévi-Strauss: French anthropologist and ethnologist, member of the French Academy, the father of structuralism, who died in 2009.
(**) Paul Morand: writer, diplomat and academician French. Considered one of the fathers of the "modern" literature, it has become one of the great French writers of the twentieth century. His work has had a large influence on Hussars, especially Roger Nimier. Died in 1976.
What you write is really very limited. Miscegenation is a reality today whether you like it or not. Fortunately feelings beyond the color of skin, despite an intolerant or racist environment. This couple is doing rather well, (although there are difficulties) especially in a country like Russia.
I'm just trying to step back on our situation: the West rose from the obsession with racial purity (150 years ago) to the obsession with miscegenation. Our rulers want us absolutely métissions:
"It's going to speak, but the objective is to meet the challenge of miscegenation challenge UaDreams address the XXI Century This is not a choice, it is an obligation, it is an imperative. Can not do otherwise, the risk of finding ourselves faced with considerable problems. UaDreams have to change, then UaDreams will change. (...) "
Nicolas Sarkozy's speech to the Polytechnic, December 17, 2008
(youtube.com/watch?v=UCs4ZcsDo4E)
Yet miscegenation has always been a marginal reality. Claude Levi-Strauss put it well (in his analysis of the myths of civilization): marriage, the foundation of societies should be neither incest nor exogamous. "Neither too close nor too far." I have great admiration for the Jews, who for 2,000 years, have managed to preserve the identity of their people.
ptitom, you forgot to mention that Paul Morand is vichiste. So it is not surprising that quote, although he was married to a Romanian (oh yes I forgot, so it's not gonna ... black). You would surely have quoted Hitler as to argue your point. For citations against Levi Strauss is not she out of their contexts? Besides, when I type "civilization myths Analysis" in google I find nothing except this article. If UaDreams take the alliance theory expounded by Levi Strauss, for all men on earth live in society, UaDreams need an exchange of women (except the one who is not my relative is virtually my enemy). The resulting interbreeding is not it?
What miscegenation is not natural? It mixes since time immemorial.
Finally, regarding the video, not to mention the fact that it is cut to extract a few passages to support arabophobe thought the person that he put on you tube (just see the other video) I do not see how miscegenation and respect of identity are incompatible, however, if UaDreams are mixed does not impose on others a model of civilization but it creates another based on fraternity (which is also one of the values ​​of France, although not on the France Vichiste, sorry). FYI after the Mongol invasions 15% of the Russian aristocracy had Mongolian parents. Russian Women Are not as pretty with their almond eyes and cheekbones because they are the result of interbreeding, while the poor English on their island have not been able even to crossbreed ?
"although he was married to a Romanian (oh yes I forgot, so it's not gonna ... black)"
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1) Of course the distance between the two peoples is important. Romanian is already "close" to us and African (skin color, culture, history, ethics, role of women ...). This finding it displeases you?
2) You talk of marriage between different peoples as a diplomatic means to pacify relations between powerful. It is true that the secret of longevity of the Habsburgs, which was the most lasting dynasty in the history of the continent, was justly due to such marriages. Also include other families: PÅ™emyslids (John of Luxembourg wife Eliška PÅ™emyslovna and became king of Bohemia in 1310), the Saxe-Coburg, etc. So what ? These alliances are the events in the history of our continent, and is the common foundation of civilization to European peoples (I telling you anything ...) Note that NOT PRINCES SE crossbreed EUROPEANS DO WITH AFRICAN, ORIENTAL ARAB OR .
Formerly, in antiquity, one could speak of Mediterranean civilization thanks to the role played by the Roman Empire, which tied numerous alliances between Mediterranean peoples. (Berber king Juba II does not he married the Greco-Egyptian Cleopatra Selene II?) But that was BEFORE THE ARRIVAL of Arab Muslims who completely tore the ties between the two shores of the Mediterranean. Since there were no more "miscegenation" (until 1850), if that were the raids of white women on Italian and French coasts to serve as wives to the Arabs. (I remind you that these raids were experienced as humiliation and have also justified the French invasion of Algeria).
3) To conclude: in reality, the "blending" is not simple nor natural (ie incorporation of a company). If the sovereign could marry their fellow European alliances in a particular game, people often refuse, and categorically, such a method. I'm beginning to know well the history of Bohemia, and know that the German settlers of Bohemia who pre-existed since the thirteenth century could never assimilate to the Czech people. Community tensions were huge, throughout these 800 years of coexistence in which the Czechs were often outvoted in the Empire. Even found in the chronicles of Dalimil (1314) a text that explains to the Czech nobility why it is a thousand times better to marry a Czech peasant queen a German (I read this text). And UaDreams know what led these tensions: the expulsion of all Germans of Bohemia after the Second World War.
In short, it is already difficult to coexist with populations of European heritage yet so close, so you can imagine how it is (or it will be) a disaster and a terrible failure of coexistence of Europeans, Africans and Arabs. I feel assaulted, and personally I did not ask what Africa or Islam imposes its presence here.
You just prove what your comment is very positive miscegenation and finally permettrais to end rivalries between people with a past, a history and therefore different cultures, because there would need to coexist in the extent then UaDreams will form a single population, a large family. Guess who benefits confinement, communitarianism and the creation of a nation (or in the past of a kingdom) by giving subjects a strong identity and make them reject their neighbors. Chronic you mention seems to be a good example. In any case this does not benefit the ordinary mortal.
I do not mean the interbreeding between the powerful, the kings. Or have seen it in my comment? I speak of sets in touch. Of course UaDreams will not marry a woman after the earth because you have already been able to meet her. The cultural differences were the result of geographical features (mountains, rivers ...) that have separated the landed population. You are European, but above all you landlubbers like your cousin who was born in Africa.
Either you are handled by the speech of those who took care to put people back to back for personal interests or you are like his radical imams who knowingly charge you a communalist and fundamentalist discourse. The controversy over the famous film is a good example. Why reproduce the items you reject in others?
I am well aware of your openness, etc., but this tolerance is expressed in the context of Western humanism. If the West goes, UaDreams will be governed by other cultural codes (which UaDreams can not imagine). Today the ideology of miscegenation in full operation, but remember it did a century ago, it was that of racial purity and racism. In addition, UaDreams have a particular definition of miscegenation, while the Muslim world is one for him a one-way process (shown in the "interreligious dialogue"). In short, miscegenation, it is a concept that can evolve. It is not so timeless, universal than that. It is not constitutive of the companies (except perhaps of modern Western societies?)
1) First it is a difficult act, risky and dangerous (eg I have two friends who were shocked to find themselves infériorisées by their small Turkish or Moroccan friends);
2) Next, miscegenation is instrumentalized by the current political class in order to get rid of Community problems mass immigration. Strange paradox that promote anti-racist miscegenation "café au lait" to reinvent the concept of race ... (Where are indeed past lovers biodiversity, the diversity of peoples?);
3) Finally, and this is the most important reason for me:
I now contains a minority. I know that the Jews have survived 2000 years of minorization often difficult, sometimes happier. And since I see that Western Europe being Islamized and Africanized, I resist my way. This resistance is also the survival of the heritage of my ancestors. Many of us see with horror the Balkanization of Europe. So the first act of resistance is not to crossbreed.
Radical imams does not prevent anyone to express themselves in reality, or at least not directly, it does not do the dirty work themselves, they manipulate crowds through discourse exacerbating feelings of religious and community affiliation.
You talk about religion, culture, skin color and you mix all while there are people with black skin who are Christians, Muslims and on the other side even atheists. There is no real link between genetics and religion, it just depends on the distribution of each religion. You mean the Muslim world as a unit the more there are plenty of differences: there are radicals, moderates, Arab, Asian and even European. Have you ever been in Tatarstan? Have you seen this Kremlin or cohabits a mosque and an Orthodox church. I do not bec hogwash to religion but it is a good sign.
Can UaDreams really talk about natural or unnatural for miscegenation? It's like saying that the settlement is natural or unnatural it does not really make sense. This is the settlement which set the population and certainly less miscegenation and develop cultural differences. I remember a map or genetic survey population movements could be deduced in the past. With small dots from the south east of Europe to the north west. Ireland genetics showed greater homogeneity, so the end of the journey for this population movement (difficult to go further))
I do not see what you mean by talking about different types of miscegenation if UaDreams talk about population.
If I admit that I have a bad heart when you talk about racial purity, I think the height is not exactly a century but 72 years, starting in the extermination of Jews and Slavs.
For your various points I would say
1) yes there are cultural differences, but it's the same between France and Russia. Feminism is particularly developed in France while in Russia the contrary, most women want to be dependent on their husbands and society is patriarchal (although this is changing). This does not mean that evil live, on the contrary. In France UaDreams would like women to be equal, it brings money home, make it a career but also that it is concerned by returning the work of most household chores. Your friends would also have been shocked if they found themselves in France 70 years ago. Love must overcome its differences and yes, I am a witness that's difficult because everyone thinks with its repository, education broadly as the context where he grew up.
2) It is France that is a choice UaDreams made a long time, this may be utopian, but it's beautiful. The French have a citizenship card called citizenship card, citizenship = nationality. Equality and fraternity. After I do not know what is this history of advocating latte and I see that come to do politics in couple relationships. You have too much drag on political websites in anti-black or Arab tendencies who invent conspiracies (the video of your first comment is for me a good example. I do not say I want to live with a small black or a small board or an Asian, it is still more serious than a simple roll in the air :-)
3) I've seen lately indeed many websites trying to scare speaking of an Islamic invasion blah blah blah, I also enjoyed writing them. Their speech is incoherent, he speaks of secularism but they are just against Muslims. Of course UaDreams must regulate migration flows since this will create insecurity for its immigrants (France is not an Eldorado although the situation is better than in their country of birth) and that it generates crime. But UaDreams are not fooled all this is political manipulation to frighten and attract people to the party of the family pen (a real small monarchy). Instead it must not be closed as this will create among his people from diverse backgrounds a Community decline, that radical will use. If France so they are often excluded even French second generation, no wonder they reject France, its culture and values ​​that are then only a smokescreen. Your wealth is also the republic, tolerance, fraternity, equality. UaDreams must and UaDrea! ms can be proud of the heritage of France, history (not all be good little earlier UaDreams talked about Vichy) and share is not to withdraw into oneself. Religion is a private choice, I am VERY proud to be a secular country years and I am attached to this value. If you see an Islamisation is that you care about the privacy of your neighbors, whereas this is not your case. What does Africanization? That people do not forget their roots and share them with you? Take this opportunity to open yourself eating couscous, chicken Creole and dancing on tam tam or zouk and offer your turn to eat a good raclette and dance to the bal musette. You can even offer a glass of wine to a person who is Muslim principle, as Catholics they do not follow all the rules of dusty books of their church. What are you afraid of ? Your children forget their heritage, their history but it has nothing to do with your neighbor is up to you to pass it on. And even though You may marry a woman from another! culture, how this changes anything for your children, they wi! ll be two rich cultures. I myself am Franco Russian.
A Kosovo what is it? I know that Kosovo. But in fact if you fold on yourself and reject people with skin pigmentation different than yours and beliefs that may diverge (as in right / left politics), the French will do the same and tensions will emerge as in the Balkans. I am convinced that the only solution is openness towards the other, and reflecting miscegenation there (which makes sense here, the other is no longer an enemy or a competitor) must not stay close on oneself and reject a part of the population who are going to turn the rejection. the theme is vast because one can start talking about Europe, regionalization ... but I'll stop the discussion. UaDreams can be afraid, be prejudiced especially when one is robbed by a gang of scum, but next to ca there are doctors, lawyers that if they do not forget their origins (fortunately) the French as much as I feel and are attached to France and its values.
1) "You talk about religion, culture, skin color and you mix everything."
Yes, because when I mix all Métis, one Métis EVERYTHING. The example of the Russian-Cameroonian couples shows that this is not just skin colors crossbreed who is also a way of life and different cultures. I'm not fixing on skin color: the proof with my criticism of the Muslim world.
2) "I have seen lately indeed many websites trying to scare speaking of an Islamic invasion"
There is no Islamic army invasion, of course not. There is an immigration, massive since the law on family reunification, mainly originally from Arab and Muslim countries. This massive immigration, peaceful, may prove to be an invasion when destabilizes and substantially alters the functioning of the host society. There is also evidence that some immigrants engage in terrorism (2% of the Muslim population problem according to the Ministry of Interior).
So after all, the problem is whether to relativize the effects of immigration, where integration and miscegenation (assimilation) is possible or not. I think that miscegenation is good if it is made, that is to say if one of the two cultures is not overwritten by the other. It is a matter of dosage. Most times, miscegenation aims to crush the lowest identity to integrate into the dominant culture.
Before arriving in Paris, I was pro-miscegenation and a little naive as you. Arriving in Paris, I have radically changed and had a sudden realization. (I understood what happened in Kosovo !!). For your information, 55% of babies born in 2005 in Île-de-France are of African origin (including North African and Middle Eastern). This is the rate of children at risk for SCD exclusively African genetic disease. Screening is operated at birth.
I see on the Wikipedia site that the investigation has been updated with 2010 figures, quite incredible: I kept in mind that the national average was 25%, it rose to 31.5% in 5 years!
2010 figures
Île-de-France: 60.0%.
Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur: 43.2%
Brittany is the least affected by the "Africanization" 5.5%.
You understand me now?
You see that I am in good faith?
How can you talk about miscegenation lorsqu'ici this blend results in the complete disappearance of French identity. In Paris, French whites are a minority: it is no longer possible to save a heritage whatsoever. Interbreeding can only accelerate this fall.
Conclusion: I hope that this discussion could make you feel that anti-miscegenation arguments are as tangible or legitimate, that pro-miscegenation. Miscegenation remains a purely individual choice, of course. But it has always been instrumentalized by political: Diversity Charter in companies, imposing social diversity [in ethnic reality] in all cities of France (SRU), interbreeding of promotions in many cultural festivals and events subsidized ... This is understandable quite easily: miscegenation remains politically the only way to avoid ethno-cultural tensions.
3) For the shape of the discussion, I did not appreciate the reference to Hitler (hurray for the point Godwin!) Nor the Vichy past Paul Morand (recall, quite classically, that the past has not prevented Mitterrand to be revered by all the left).
UaDreams all Métis but why you speak so many different types of miscegenation in your earlier comments?
There are no specific studies on religious affiliation, the French Republic agrees not to ask the question religious affiliation within the legal censuses, which are mandatory. The priority remains the protection of religious freedom in the context of a secular republican state. This prohibition is affirmed in Article 8 of the Act of January 6, 1978 relating to data, files and libertés12. However, INSEE studied the "state of religious practice" in a sociologique13 frame. INSEE and INED coréalisent particular a study entitled "Religious practice does affect family behaviors? ", The last date of 200814." So I do not know where you got that figure, it is illegal.
Yes the big cities are the most cosmopolitan.
How do UaDreams define a dominant culture? I find it a bit odd to talk about mainstream culture, there would be dominated cultures? As traditions and history can be dominant or dominated?
Sickle cell disease is not "exclusively" African looked in greater detail page you have given the link.
Indeed the population originating from immigration can compensate for a low birth rate among strains of French as it were ca.
A black or white French or latte or green what is the difference? And you tell me that you do not make a fixation on the color? Stop a bit, be consistent in your comments.
What do you want? So no interbreeding of communitarianism, so conflicts? Send people who have among their ancestors a person who was not born on French territory. What limits of France is taken. So UaDreams turn the Norman who Viking origins, it turns me because I have Russian origins, it turns the descendants of Italian immigration, Portuguese. There is no real French because it was a time when France was not populated. So yes UaDreams must not be encouraged communalism otherwise UaDreams will end up like in the Balkans, it is not politics that's logic.